The drive there was a lot worse than I was anticipating. I don't remember the drive to Cleveland being such a problem, but it was awful. Our GPS told us to go over a closed a bridge, make lefts where we were not able to (divided highway) and was generally wrong most of the trip.
We got there and thought I was going to have a panic attack from all the stress of trying to find the entrance to the parking garage. Things were horribly signed and the one way roads and inability to turn around ANYWAY made it extremely stressful and frustrating. They really need to make the signs larger and closer to the road so drivers can see them ! I had to pop a 15mg HC stress dose because I felt like I was going to lose it in the parking garage. That snapped me out of it!
I got in there and the nurse rubbed me the wrong way. She was a weird one. I was asked very specific questions about my "first episode", but when I tried to explain my point further, I was rudely interrupted. I brought in all of the requested labs (holter reports, ECG's, echos etc) and they didn't even seem to care! I don't know why I was even told to bring them in the first place. When I was trying to explain to the nurse my history, I felt like I was being interrogated by an enemy soldier. She was second guessing me, telling me there's no way I could possibly be feeling that way. When I told her that my heart rates hit 160 on a regular basis, she had the nerve to say "Well you walked the whole way back to the exam room, got weighed and you seemed fine". I told her very sternly that my heart was racing the ENTIRE time. Once again she just did not believe me at all. I was getting pretty ticked off the longer the nurse was in the room. She down played every single thing I would say.
Once the doctor got into the room, the exact same thing happened. She told me that everything I brought in today would need scanned into their computer system. Nothing is done on paper. Ok...so why was I told to bring all of this in? I would have happily emailed it to whoever takes care of that stuff.
The 2nd round of interrogation began. I don't know who was worse, the nurse or the doctor. For some unknown reason they focused so much attention to my "first episode" and didn't want to hear much about anything else.
My first episode was during summer band camp in 2000. I told her that it was very hot outside and I immediately felt weak, heavy, lightheaded and overheated. She said, well if this happened as soon as you walked outside, then you were probably not dehydrated. I told her yeah that's what I thought too. She asked me if I sought medical treatment or went to the ER and I told her no. I just sucked it up and went about my marching. No one else was having these problems.
Learning the marching formations, bending down and holding my arms up to play was awful. She said that it seemed pretty unlikely that I could finish 2 weeks of marching and do all of this if my symptoms were as bad as I described. I told her not to underestimate determination...LOL I'm a pretty stubborn person.
Eventually we got to more recent history where it was first discovered in 2007 that I was having periods of tachycardia. I told her no one ever took me seriously, which is ironic because THEY WEREN'T TAKING ME SERIOUSLY! I told her I was diagnosed with adrenal insufficiency, b12 deficiency, alopecia areata. She didn't even care about the AI.
After the interrogation, she listened to my heart and told me that she'd like to do a tilt test. She explained how they do it at Cleveland Clinic which was much different than what I had seen online. They first take 3 minutes of control heart rates/BP's, then tilt you for 2 minutes at 30 degrees, then tilt you for 2 minutes at 45 degrees. After that they tilt you for up to 45 minutes at 70 degrees. I told her that I wanted to have my catecholamine levels tested with this test, so she added that on.
I went back and was strapped down. They first placed the IV in my arm and I had to rest for 30 minutes to get the supine catecholamine levels. I was glad to see that they did this right. After 30 minutes, they couldn't get any blood out of my vein since I was lying down! I have no idea what they ended up doing, but it worked. I just hope the levels weren't higher than normal because I was a little freaked out that they couldn't get blood...
They took 3 minutes of control HR's/BP's and then it began. If you've never had a tilt test done, it's an experience no one can possibly explain properly to give you the sense of how miserable it feels. As they started tilting me up, I could just feel my body go..OH NO! NOT AGAIN! haha
Immediately my HR's began to climb. Once they put me up the full way to 70 degrees, it was bad. First reading was 119 and that's the lowest HR I had during the entire test. I got all the way up to around 150 and stayed there for the entire test. The nice techs/nurses doing my TTT took down any comments or symptoms I was having during the test and it is interesting. At minute 6 I told her I was having butterflies in my stomach. At minute 14, I had that same feeling. Then at minute 15, I started to sweat and felt really hot. I had them pull the sheet down off of me. In that room, it was FREEZING beforehand so obviously my body was responding to something. Minute 16 I told the lady this is very typical of how I feel and my heart rates won't be going down until they lay me back down. Guess what? I was right! My HR's continued to stay steady until they laid me back down at minute 45.
Once they tilted me back down, they immediately went from 150 to 75. I had major heart palpitations, PVC's, couplets, PACs. It felt awful. It was awesome to see they were captured on the EKG!
During the tilt-test that rude nurse came in at some point (I can't remember exactly when, but my HR's were into the 150's) and she was like..WOW you were RIGHT! Oh my goodness!!! Your heart rates really do get that high!! That's incredible.... Uh. wow thanks! I'm glad that I could prove you wrong jerk face. Do you think I would be lying about it? Taking your pulse isn't exactly rocket science with a freaking heart rate watch!
After that test, everyone treated me completely different. The weird attitudes were gone. They knew that I was seriously messed up. Dr. J (another cardiologist in that department) came in and said you have severe dysautonomia or maybe I should just say very marked dysautonomia. I think he was afraid to say severe, but it came out any way haha. Then Dr. F said practically the same thing as he did but in nicer bedside manner.
Overall I am happy that my heart cooperated! lol
My one complaint about Cleveland Clinic is that they judged me by the way I looked and not by what I was telling them. I look pretty healthy, I think.
But inside, my body is screaming for help. I told them that I'm a pretty strong willed person and I'm here now (after 10 years) because I need to control symptoms. It's getting to be too much for me and it's affecting my every day life. Even the winter was bad this year (before beta blockers), so that tells me I'm just getting worse and worse. If I can't get a break from this even in colder temperatures, then it's getting very serious.
On Monday I have to call them to schedule a few more autonomic tests. I'm getting the QSART testing, valsalvar maneuver and heart mapping done. I'm not completely sure what is all entailed, but I know that it doesn't involve any dyes or radioactive injections. I told her I wanted to avoid those for now. She was very understanding.
I'm not happy that they were treating me like crap when I first got there, but I'm glad they came around when they actually saw what I was going through. I feel like I had to prove myself to them!
Here are the vitals taken during my TTT. You can see how crazy my HR's go despite my blood pressure keeping up until the very end of the test. I think a small dose of HC would have made my BP's come back up a bit toward the end. I was feeling pretty exhausted at the end and immediately took 5 when I got down off the table. I had been due for a dose in the MIDDLE OF MY TEST!!
Stage----BP-----HR
C-01----101/61 74
C-02----105/56 72
C-03----105/61 74
C-Mean-104/59 73
30-01---114/66 89
30-02---109/61 88
45-01---106/61 103
45-02---108/68 106
70-01---115/71 119
70-02---114/64 123
70-03---114/67 126
70-04---106/63 125
70-05---108/59 133
70-06---104/60 133
70-07----99/64 135
70-08---107/63 125
70-09---108/64 135
70-10---107/60 133
70-11---104/68 135
70-12---101/66 133
70-13---107/62 140
70-14---103/63 140
70-15---121/74 145
70-16---106/61 145
70-17---109/66 142
70-18---127/81 150
70-19---107/74 148
70-20---116/71 145
70-21---121/68 140
70-22---101/61 140
70-23---103/67 148
70-24---114/54 153
70-25---107/66 148
70-26---121/49 142
70-27---108/63 140
70-28---101/46 140
70-29----88/65 148
70-30----98/53 145
70-31---102/69 145
70-32----90/65 140
70-33----99/50 148
70-34---101/69 148
70-35---100/57 150
70-36---100/55 150
70-37---101/66 148
70-38----95/67 145
70-39----94/57 150
70-40----88/64 148
70-41----96/48 148
70-42----93/48 153
70-43----92/69 150
70-44---103/55 150
70-45----95/51 150
Rec-01--126/62 77 I was having major heart palps. PVC's with couplets
Rec-02--114/59 75 1' Marked sinus arrhythmia was noted
Rec-03--110/57 84 More palps
Rec-04--107/55 83
Rec-05--107/53 83
2 comments:
Hi Dana
this is all really interesting. I am assuming that you hadn't taken a beta blocker before the appointment,so that your POTS was in full force? What will the outcome of this appointment be - a formal diagnosis, different treatment options, or ...?
Have reduced my BB dose but still taking about 1/3 of a tablet a day, whch seems to deal with the worst symptoms.
hope you're doing better. Take care
Nicola
I stopped the beta blocker 3 days before the appointment. My heart was not happy about it at all. I was having heart palpitations, but fought through it.
This is my POTS in full force. It was freezing in that room, so it was probably blunted a bit. This tilt-test looks a lot different than the first one I had done. I can't remember if I posted those numbers on my blog. Probably.
My BP was much lower overall than in the first one, which was interesting. I don't know why.
I already have the formal diagnosis. I wanted to get my foot in the door, so that other testing can be carried out. The QSART, valsalva testing and some type of heart mapping is next. This will let me know exactly what is happening with my autonomic system. I think those tests will tell me if I have Pure Autonomic Failure (PAF).
After those tests, I'm sure they will come up with a treatment or give me another path to lead down. They take things piece by piece. Once I know the underlying cause of my POTS, I might be able to do more research on it and find a better treatment option.
The BB wasn't helping all that much now that it's warm out, so I know that just going on BB isn't the answer for me YET I'm afraid to take some of the drugs they prescribe. I've got to keep searching for more answers!
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